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Post by ftrwrtr on Jun 11, 2010 12:08:17 GMT -5
I wasn't happy with my draft last year so this year I decided to draft who I thought was the best player available instead of drafting for need and overall was pretty happy with the results
1:6 jahvid best, rb, detroit - I gave up the 2:6 this year plus my first next year to get him. RB isn't a need for me but IMO you can't have too many quality rbs and he's a big play/home run threat every time he touches the ball. Plus word is detroit will let him return kicks which makes best even more valuable to me
2:2 Ndamakung suh, dt, detroit - In general DE's are much better scorers than DT's but I believe suh to be that rare DT like warren sapp and reggie white that's so dominant you have to have him.
3:5 jason pierre-paul, de, giants - He's raw but he has insane athleticism and the giants have done well when scouting de's so I figured why not?
3:6 john skelton, qb, arizona - I need qb help and IMO skelton's in a great situation. Leinart has been inconsistent and skelton is a big qb with a strong, and more importantly, accurate arm
3:14 tony moeaki, te, kc - The pick I'm most iffy about because moeaki has problems staying healthy. That said he's in a nice situation, is considered a complete te, and at 6'3, 252 has the ideal build for a h-back ala' chris cooley and dustin keller. Plus considering five te's went before him he's about as good of a te as I could hope for
5:13 rennie curran, lb, tenn. - He's undersized at 5'10, 235lbs but that didn't stop guys like zach thomas and Lofa tatupu and like them curran was extremely productive in college
7:8 alex carrington, de, buffalo - Considered by some to be the best pass rushing de in the draft and my hope is with schobel possibly not playing carrington can step in and fill the void
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Post by kellumboys on Jun 11, 2010 17:45:40 GMT -5
I was happy to trade you Best. not that I don't think he will be productive, but RB was my least area of need. actually I wanted Bradford at that spot and when he was chosen , there was no way I was going to pass on Best. I would have had to carry him on TS this year, so the 1st rounder next year will serve me just as well I hope. plus I got the 2nd rounder this year to use. I used that 2.6 pick plus another and moved up to 2.4 and got Arrellious Benn, who I thought was a top 8 pick. nice write up. I especially liked your picks of Skelton, Moeaki and Curran where you got them. I will post mine later. I wasn't happy with my draft last year so this year I decided to draft who I thought was the best player available instead of drafting for need and overall was pretty happy with the results 1:6 jahvid best, rb, detroit - I gave up the 2:6 this year plus my first next year to get him. RB isn't a need for me but IMO you can't have too many quality rbs and he's a big play/home run threat every time he touches the ball. Plus word is detroit will let him return kicks which makes best even more valuable to me 2:2 Ndamakung suh, dt, detroit - In general DE's are much better scorers than DT's but I believe suh to be that rare DT like warren sapp and reggie white that's so dominant you have to have him. 3:5 jason pierre-paul, de, giants - He's raw but he has insane athleticism and the giants have done well when scouting de's so I figured why not? 3:6 john skelton, qb, arizona - I need qb help and IMO skelton's in a great situation. Leinart has been inconsistent and skelton is a big qb with a strong, and more importantly, accurate arm 3:14 tony moeaki, te, kc - The pick I'm most iffy about because moeaki has problems staying healthy. That said he's in a nice situation, is considered a complete te, and at 6'3, 252 has the ideal build for a h-back ala' chris cooley and dustin keller. Plus considering five te's went before him he's about as good of a te as I could hope for 5:13 rennie curran, lb, tenn. - He's undersized at 5'10, 235lbs but that didn't stop guys like zach thomas and Lofa tatupu and like them curran was extremely productive in college 7:8 alex carrington, de, buffalo - Considered by some to be the best pass rushing de in the draft and my hope is with schobel possibly not playing carrington can step in and fill the void
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Post by kellumboys on Jun 11, 2010 21:27:52 GMT -5
Dog Fight wanted Bradford -QB at 1.6 to stash on TS but he was gone. traded away 1.6 (Javid Best) for a 1st rounder next year and a 2nd rounder that turned into 2.4. 2.04 Benn, Arrelious TBB WR - in most mock draft I had seen, Benn was going around pick #8. at #18 I got a steal and I hope a star at a position of need. has to be a starter in TB because they have nothing else. 2.08 Morgan, Derrick TEN DE - few 4-3 DEs show up every year. I was happy to get him right after brandon graham. either would have been fine. 2.10 Washington, Daryl ARI LB - 3 LBs seemed to stand out from the rest and I got the 3rd one. hope he can produce like carlos dansby. 3.13 Williams, Damian TEN WR - there is surely an opportunity in Ten. for a starting WR. really wanted a TE (graham or gronkowski) here. oh well, I need WR help in the future. 5.14 Dillard, Phillip NYG LB - all the best DBs were gone. he is as good as anything the giants have at MLB now. could pay off big. 6.04 Onobun, Fendi STL TE - one last grasp for a TE. considered Worilds, Easley or Griffin here. a big gamble, but who knows. 7.04 Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi DAL CB - HOMER pick. rumor is he could become the starting FS down the road. please, we need one bad. could have gone with Stuckey, but let Muses have him as last pick so he will probably become the stud DB.
pretty happy with the balance I was able to get. missed out on QB and TE early. maybe I can get a QB of the future next year with the extra 1st rounder.
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Post by lordhelmet on Jun 12, 2010 3:11:43 GMT -5
Sure I'll play, I feel like my first draft here could be an epic one. Time will tell of course. 1.01 Dez Bryant WR DAL - I have little doubt that this guy will be a star in Dallas 2.01 Rolando McClain LB OAK - Looking at the other names in the front seven, McClain should step right in and produce an insane amount of tackles. 3.01 Mike Williams WR TB - The best WR Tampa drafted in 2010 4.01 Em. Sanders WR PIT - Seems like a perfect fit in Pittsburgh 5.01 TJ Ward DB CLE - They picked him 38th overall, he should see the field early and often 6.01 Kareem Jackson DB HOU - Taking over for Robinson, teams will be testing the rookie a little bit. 7.01 Everson Griffen DL MIN - Hopefully Edwards demands too much money next year
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Post by ftrwrtr on Jun 12, 2010 12:40:39 GMT -5
Dog Fight wanted Bradford -QB at 1.6 to stash on TS but he was gone. traded away 1.6 (Javid Best) for a 1st rounder next year and a 2nd rounder that turned into 2.4. 2.04 Benn, Arrelious TBB WR - in most mock draft I had seen, Benn was going around pick #8. at #18 I got a steal and I hope a star at a position of need. has to be a starter in TB because they have nothing else. 2.08 Morgan, Derrick TEN DE - few 4-3 DEs show up every year. I was happy to get him right after brandon graham. either would have been fine. 2.10 Washington, Daryl ARI LB - 3 LBs seemed to stand out from the rest and I got the 3rd one. hope he can produce like carlos dansby. 3.13 Williams, Damian TEN WR - there is surely an opportunity in Ten. for a starting WR. really wanted a TE (graham or gronkowski) here. oh well, I need WR help in the future. 5.14 Dillard, Phillip NYG LB - all the best DBs were gone. he is as good as anything the giants have at MLB now. could pay off big. 6.04 Onobun, Fendi STL TE - one last grasp for a TE. considered Worilds, Easley or Griffin here. a big gamble, but who knows. 7.04 Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi DAL CB - HOMER pick. rumor is he could become the starting FS down the road. please, we need one bad. could have gone with Stuckey, but let Muses have him as last pick so he will probably become the stud DB. pretty happy with the balance I was able to get. missed out on QB and TE early. maybe I can get a QB of the future next year with the extra 1st rounder. I was happy to get best because I wasn't expecting to get any good rbs this year but I'm gonna hate it next year when I see you drafting jake locker or andrew luck and knowing they were the franchise qb I should have gotten...oh well I'm not sold on benn but I really like your pick of derrick morgan, daryl washington, and damian williams. In addition I may regret taking curran over dillard because the giants' MLB always does well helmet - Dez will be a beast for a long time to come, great pick. I was a bit upset to see mcclain go one pick before me, I think he's sure to be a top 10 LB for a while and he would've made an instant impact to my roster. Also I'm sure boney's wasn't too happy to see you end up with ward
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Post by lordhelmet on Jun 13, 2010 3:25:59 GMT -5
Don't forget, Dillard has that worldbeater Jon Goff in front of him ;D
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Post by Musesboy on Jun 15, 2010 8:57:20 GMT -5
4.11 WR Andre Roberts, ARI There were a few LBs on my radar and I had another pick coming up, so I took the top WR on my board with my first pick. Boldin's departure leaves a bit of an opportunity in ARI. Although Breaston is first in line, there's no guarantee he will start permanently. Even if he does, I can stash Roberts and see if his stock rises. Breaston had value in our scoring system as a WR3 who can return kicks, so I could get something for my investment even if all Roberts does is eventually rise above Early Doucet.
4.14 LB Donald Butler, SD I considered S Morgan Burnett here, thinking that Steve would take him before my next pick. The reason I decided to stick with my original thought of LB was that it is a position of need. I'm a bit weak after my starters and I think he has a chance to replace Stephen Cooper in 2011. The three rookie LBs ranked ahead of him were all drafted by 2.10, so I thought it was decent value getting this year's fourth-ranked LB.
5.05 CB Joe Haden, CLE As expected, Burnett was taken ahead of this pick. I had to decide whether to take another WR prospect or a rookie CB who could be targeted heavily this year. I decided that the short term was more important in this case and went with Haden. He likely only has value for one year, but I remember how Eric Wright thrived in his rookie year with the Browns (71 tackles).
6.08 LB Jason Worilds, PIT The chances of finding someone who would stick around on my roster this late in the draft were slim. Worilds won't have an immediate opportunity. He's currently classified as a DB by MFL. I'm hoping that he will eventually replaced Harrison (32) on the outside and earn an LB classification. The Steelers have a history of developing productive LBs so I went with a combination of system and future need.
6.14 WR Marcus Easley, BUF I considered this guy much earlier, but knew that the Bills have no offensive line and nothing special at QB. This is strictly a pick for future seasons. What Easley does have is the chance to break into the starting lineup by 2011. Maybe even this year. With the 84th pick of the draft, there wasn't much to lose.
7.14 S Darrell Stuckey, SD Safeties are valuable in our system and the Chargers have a history of production at the position. Injury might give him an immediate opportunity. if not, maybe his chances of starting will look better after he spends a year on my taxi squad.
I'm pretty happy with my draft after not picking until 4.14. But any owner who isn't happy with his draft is crazy for picking players he doesn't like. I'm sure every one of us is optimistic. If any of these end up as a regular starter for me, I will be more than satisfied.
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Post by Dabelovedbear on Jun 23, 2010 8:05:03 GMT -5
1.10 Ben Tate HOU RB After some trading last year I was left with 5 picks in the draft with two toward the end of the first round. I was looking at trying to get two top players from the QB, RB, TE LB or S categories. As you guys know I live in the south and follow SEC football and tend to know those players best. The first 5 or 6 players picked were who I thought would be taken. That left me with a pool of players including Claussen, Gresham, Tate, Berry and McClain that I was hoping to get two of. The way it fell had Claussen and Gresham off the board and I took Ben Tate with the hope of getting Berry or McClain three picks later. With RB's flying off the board as usual I thought I stood a better chance of getting one of those defensive players in a couple picks than of Tate still being there. For me Tate has good size, is fast, has good hands and is going to the 30th ranked rushing offense last year with only Steve Slaton who had a neck injury and surgery from last year as major competition. My impressions of the first round were that Thomas went a little higher than I would take him but if there is one thing I learned is that if you really like a player take hime when you can and don't wait on him. I thought the Claussen pick at 1.8 by Kchi was a great pick but then thought his Hernandez pick was way too early at 1.9 (since NE already drafted Gronkowski 3 rounds earlier and traditionally doesn't use the TE much) Now to Tebow, for me that was too high for a guy who just changed his entire throwing motion, he reminds me of Bobby Douglas who used to play for the Bears as a big run first QB who's not very accurate. He will get pounded in the NFL if he tries to run like he did in college. That being said he is tough, a leader and a winner and we'll just see how he developes. I thought Coach and Pex got nice value with Bradford and Matthews falling to 3 and 4.
1.13 Eric Barry KCC S 6 foot- 211 pounds fast as hell and mean going to a team that desperately needs a safety. For me Barry was the best defensive player in the draft and could have a huge career for many years. As mentioned above I also looked at Rolando McClain here who I think will be a great tackling LB in the NFL. Taught by Saban at Alabama is enough for me.
3.09 Gerald McCoy TBB DT I was suprised McCoy was still available at this pick. 6'4" - 300 lbs and extremely quick and disruptive. Going to an older/smallish Tampa Bay line that was last in the league in rushing defense last year sounds like a great opportunity for McCoy. A few players I liked picked before me were Golden Tate (great hands and oppotunity) Brandon Spikes and Jerry Hughs.
5.10 Major Wright CHI S Since I didn't have a pick for 2 rounds I needed some DB help and there were some quality DB's on the board. I was hoping one safety out of Nate Allen, Taylor Mays or Major Wright would fall to me. Allen was a long shot to fall that far but fortunately Wright fell to me. He is fast, aggressive and is going to a Bears team which desperately need safety help. He also started for Florida. Other players I was looking at were Sergio Kindle, Jordan Shipley, Carlos Dunlap and Mardy Gilyard
7.10 Eric Norwood CAR LB Finally drafting as this late I'm just looking for a good football player with some upside. Norwood is a 3 year starter at South Carolina. He might not be the biggest or fastest LB but he has a non stop motor which I like a lot in a pick this late. He reminded me a little of Patrick Willis when I watched him play. (not saying he will be another Willis)
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Post by ftrwrtr on Jun 26, 2010 11:15:27 GMT -5
muses - you didn't need to get much in the draft but still managed to get a number of players with good potential, especially impressive considering how late you drafted. I like the picks of roberts and butler the best. I was also disappointed to find out easley wasn't available for me to take in the 7th
bear - I'm surprised you thought highly of gresham but not hernandez especially with you being a fellow SEC fan. That 1 -2 punch of tate and berry should be great for you for a long time. I think mccoy will turn out to be a better college player than pro, not saying he'll bust just that he doesn't excite me. Still I can understand taking mccoy in the third. I also think getting eric norwood could turn out to be a sneaky good pick
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Post by Dabelovedbear on Jul 15, 2010 9:55:07 GMT -5
ftr,
For me taking Hernandez at the 1.9 pick in our draft was way to high. I think he has too many question marks to take that high in our draft. He has pretty good hands and catches the ball well. He is not a very good blocker. He was the 2nd TE taken in this draft by NE and was traded for 2 rounds after they drafted Rob Gronkowski. NE tradionally has not used the TE much. Gresham is bigger, stronger, faster and going to team where he should start right away. For me, my problem with taking Hernandez was where he was taken with the 9th pick. I want a pick that high that has less question marks (not that, that guarantees anything). Quite honestly your pick of Moeaki in the 3rd round was a much better pick. I have him as just a good of a receiver, a better blocker and going to a much better situation.
Thats what makes this format great as everyone values players differently. Hernandez may become a great TE. No offense to Cheesy with what I wrote, if you like a player you have to take him when you can.
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Post by ftrwrtr on Jul 16, 2010 16:56:57 GMT -5
Different strokes for different folks I guess. I personally prefer to hear that my fast te who IMO is a good receiver is only mediocre at blocking. That means the team that drafts him won't keep him in protection and go out and get a te who is a good receiver ala' brandon pettigrew in detroit
Also I think hernandez' situation is alot better than you think, true the pats haven't used their te much in recent years but they've had mediocre, underachieving te's also. The last time they had a quality te was when ben coats played for them back in the '90's and IIRC they used him quite a bit
I will admit I like hernandez' situation less now that all signs seem to point to welker being back in time for the start of the season
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